you're 18, (considered an adult), want to move out of your parents house to get away from your dysfunctional mom, and can't because you feel guilty leaving your mom and dad because your parents have alot of health problems?.
i absolutely cannot function in this environment.
it's just nuts.
A friend of mine called about 45 minutes ago and said J****'s moving back to Illinois and wants to know if youd like to get a place with her.So I am LEAVIN!! Yay!!
~Sarah
See, jehover always provides a way out for his beloved servants Sarah!
Good luck with the move, and congrats!
Spot on Jeff!
you're 18, (considered an adult), want to move out of your parents house to get away from your dysfunctional mom, and can't because you feel guilty leaving your mom and dad because your parents have alot of health problems?.
i absolutely cannot function in this environment.
it's just nuts.
Sorry to hear this Missy.
It's great that you feel that you want to help your parents, but in the end, the only person's happiness that you are responsible is yourself.
I recommend reading this book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060928972/ref=sib_rdr_dp/103-9273582-8395867
I have a feeling that it will read like a biography for you.
Best,
Paul
so, if a friend comes up to us and says, ?you?re an idiot!?
and we feel sad and angered after this incident we are likely to say that our friend made us feel sad and angry.
we made ourselves feel sad and angry.
but we did have some "say so" in the matter and certainly could have stopped letting ourselves be manipulated. In fact, most of us have done so.
agreed
I prefer to define "brainwashing" ...that is, manipulating another human beings thoughts through unusual psychological means to the point where one is no longer in control of their own thinking.
Ok, I would like to clarify some things in that definition. One, you mention unusual. How about usual means? You can likely see where I am going with this, as I would argue that usual, or more importantly, means that appear innocuous and 'everyday' can many times be more effective. Two, you mention 'to the point where one is no longer in control of their own thinking', meaning that there is a period of transition. I could argue that during the period of transition a person uses stage 'B', but then is taught to circumvent stage 'B' and go directly from 'A' to 'C'. I can't discuss more as I have to get out of work before I get asked to do anything else on this half day of work, but I will come back later. Have a good X-mass!
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i have found some adorable santa images on the internet and i'd love it if everyone shared their favorite santas!
(please no naked santas!).
This one is wearing a hat, so it's not completely naked...
Ahhhhhh, cuuuute!
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i have found some adorable santa images on the internet and i'd love it if everyone shared their favorite santas!
(please no naked santas!).
(please no naked Santas!)
How about 3/4 naked Santa's or his 'little helpers'?
so, if a friend comes up to us and says, ?you?re an idiot!?
and we feel sad and angered after this incident we are likely to say that our friend made us feel sad and angry.
we made ourselves feel sad and angry.
So Bradley, am I understanding you correctly that you are saying that since we as humans have control over how we process information [i.e., 'B'] we therefore were not brainwashed as JW's?
And for further clarification, can you give me a simple one or two sentence definition of brainwashing? I'd like to know what your perception of brainwashing is before I address my viewpoints on this matter. I see this says pt 2, so forgive me if you already gave such a definition in another post.
i am not going to divulge any names or contact details as i do not what this being taken much further.. i will cut to the chase, i have fallen in love with a jehova's witness.
i am not a jehova's witness... can you see where this is going?
i have been told that her being in love with me is strictly against jw "policy"... now, i have been scowering the net for days now, becomming increasingly insomniate and i have to admit, i have found nothing to support this warning.
heartbroken,
It was nice of you to come back here and give us an update. Sorry for your pain, I guess you must have really felt something for this person.
In the long run, you saved yourself a world of heartache. God knows more than a few us here know that.
sorry about the double post, i had problems with the computer....
before i go into some parts of the program, here is the program for the following weekend.. .
circuit assembly program 2004-2005. .
LMFAO @ Mary, jeebuz that was funny, I had tears in my eyes!
I'm w/Willy on this one. I'd go to that assmebly in a heartbeat
i'm new to this site so thought i would introduce myself.
i'm actually gadget's girlfriend (the guy of secret santa fame!!
) and have registered here to get a better understanding of what ex-jw's have gone/are going through.
Welcome to the board!
That's cool that you're coming in here to get a better understanding of Gadget's past!
